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Chris's Ancestors - Roberts Family

Roberts


Generation 1 Roberts Family Tree

John Roberts and his wife, Eleanor

Generation 2 Roberts Family Tree

Children of John and Eleanor

David Roberts (1828 - )
Robert Roberts (1830 - ) husband of Ann(e) Jones
Mary Roberts (1832 - )

Generation 3 Roberts Family Tree

Children of Robert and Ann(e)

John Roberts (1857 - )
Elizabeth Roberts (1860 - 1940) wife of William Edwards (1852 - ) then Robert Evans (1864 -)
Ellen Roberts (1862 - )
Louisa Roberts (1864 - )
Robert Roberts (1871 - )
Jane A Roberts (1875 - )
Mary Roberts (1876 - )

Generation 4 Roberts Family Tree

Children of Elizabeth Roberts and William Edwards

Ann (Annie) Ellen Edwards (1884 - )
[ Married Samuel Davies in 1906.]
Mary Louisa Edwards (1886 - )
[ Married Noah Williams in 1919 and then John Hughes in 1946.]
Robert Trevor Edwards (1887 - 1926)
[ Married Ellen Hughes in 1907, buried on 20th May 1926 at Coedpoeth.]
John William Edwards (1889 - 1946)
[ Born 28th August 1889 in Pennsylvania, Married Elizabeth Ann Bayley in 1917, died Vancouver 24th November 1946.]
Sarah Elizabeth Edwards (1891 - 1981)
[ Married Henry Joseph Poynter in 1917.]
Thomas (Tom) Mason Edwards (1893 - )
[ baptised 26th June 1896 at Brymbo. Married Mary Elizabeth Phillips in 1923]
Ioan (Juan) Edwards (1896 - )
[ baptised 26th June 1896 at Brymbo, married Morfydd Alice Cadwaladr in 1824]
Lavinia (Lena) Edwards (1897 - 1989)
[ born 30th December 1897, baptised 23rd January 1898 at Brymbo, married Edward Jones in 1923 and then John O. Lewis in 1953]
William Eric Edwards (1900 - )
[ baptised 4th May 1900 at Brymbo.]

Only child of Elizabeth Roberts and Robert Evans




Further details of Chris's direct Roberts ancestors


The following sections contain details transcribed from documents such as census, birth, marriage and death certificates, parish records, newspapers, etc.

Unless otherwise stated, we have transcribed directly from the original document or from a scanned or photographic image of the original document.



John Roberts (~1800 - ) Roberts Family Tree


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John's Birth

From the various census returns, John was born in 1800.
The 1851 and 1881 census has him born in Pennant, Montgomeryshire. The 1871 census return has him born in Llangynog. (The 1861 census has him born in Anglesey, which is an unexplained anomaly.) A likely baptism for John, in Pennant Melangell, took place on 20th July 1800. If this is the correct John, his parents were Robert Roberts and Mary.
(John's children include a Robert and a Mary.)

1841 Census
Garth, Trevor Issaf

John Roberts age 40, Ag Lab
Elleanor Roberts age 45
David Roberts age 12
Robert Roberts age 10
Mary Roberts age 5
(All born in the same county)

1851 Census Pen Lan, Trevor Isaf

John Roberts age 49, Ag Lab, born Montgomeryshire, Pennant
Elinor Roberts age 54, born Merioneth, Llangwm?
David Roberts age 22, Collier or Coal Miner, born Llangollen
Robert Roberts Collier or Coal Miner, age 20, born Llangollen


1861 Census Croes Iolin, Trevor Isaf

Probable position of Croes Iolin, Trevor Isaf at nls.uk
Link to Croes Iolin, Trevor Isaf at Old-Maps.co.uk
Croes Iolin, Trevor Isaf.
John Roberts age 60, Ag Lab, born Anglesey
Elinor Roberts age 65, born Merioneth, Llangar?
David Roberts age 32, Collier, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Jane Roberts, David's wife, age 30, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Jane Roberts, David's daughter, age 2, born Denbighshire, Llangollen


1871 Census John Roberts now widowed, at Chapel House, the home of his son, David.

David Roberts age 42, Coal Miner, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Jane Roberts age 40, birth place not stated
Jane Roberts age 12, born Merionethshire, Llanerchyllyn
David Roberts age 11, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Elinor Roberts age 10, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Catherine Roberts age 8, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
John Roberts age 6, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
William Roberts age 4, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Susanah Roberts age 2, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
John Roberts age 70, Agricultural Labourer, born Montgomery, Llangynog


1881 Census John Roberts still living with his son, David.
Garth Ganol, Trevor Issaf

David Roberts age 52, Labourer in Brick Yard, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Jane Roberts age 50, born Merioneth, Llangower
John Roberts age 80, born Montgomery, Pennant
David Roberts age 21, Assistant master in board school, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Ellen Roberts age 20, General servant unemployed, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
John Roberts age 16, Brickmaker, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Susanah Roberts age 12, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Alice A Roberts age 8, born Denbighshire, Llangollen
Alice Roberts age 28, visitor, Housemaid, unemployed, norn Denbighshire, Llangollen



Robert Roberts (1830 - ) Roberts Family Tree


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Birth and Baptism
From the register of Glan yr afon Chapel, Llangollen

Robert, son of John Roberts of Trefor Uchaf (labourer)and his wife Elinor (formerly Thomas) was born June 4th and baptised 23rd of the same month 1830 By Thomas Jones"

Marriage (from certificate)

Rehoboth Chapel, Llangollen at nls.uk
Link to Rehoboth Chapel, Llangollen at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing Rehoboth Chapel, Llangollen
Garth Trevor at nls.uk
Link to Garth Trevor at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing Garth Trevor
Christionnedd at nls.uk
Link to Christionnedd at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing Christionnedd
Robert Roberts, age 27, batchelor, married Anne Jones, age 22, spinster, at the Rehoboth Chapel, Llangollen, on 30th May 1857.
Robert gave his address as Garth Trevor, Llangollen
Anne gave her address as Christionnedd, parish of Ruabon
Robert's father was John Roberts, labourer.
Anne's father was Robert Jones, Tailor.
Witnesses were John Davies and Mary Roberts


1861 Census
Square, Garth Road, Trevor Issa, Llangollen
[We have not managed exactly to pinpoint this address, but it is likely to be at the upper end of Garth Road]

Probable position of Square, Garth at nls.uk
Link to Old-Maps.co.uk
General area of Square, Garth.
Robert Roberts age 30, Coal Miner, born Llangollen
Ann Roberts age 27, born Llangollen
John Roberts age 3, born Llangollen
Elizabeth Roberts age 1 month, born Llangollen


1871 Census
Brynygroes, Garth Ucha, Trevor Issa, Llangollen

Probable position of Brynygroes, Garth at nls.uk
Link to Brynygroes, Garth at Old-Maps.co.uk
Position of Brynygroes, Garth.
Robert Roberts age 44, Coal Miner, born Llangollen
Ann Roberts age 38, born Llangollen
John Roberts age 13, born Llangollen
Elizabeth Roberts age 11, born Llangollen
Ellen Roberts age 9, born Llangollen
Louisa Roberts age 7, born Llangollen
Robert Roberts age 4 months, born Llangollen


1881 Census
Brynygroes, Garth Road, Trevor Issa, Llangollen
Robert has died but Ann remains with the children in the same house

Probable position of Brynygroes, Garth at nls.uk
Link to Brynygroes, Garth at Old-Maps.co.uk
Position of Brynygroes, Garth.
Ann Roberts (widow) age 47, born Llangollen
John Roberts age 23, born Llangollen, brick maker with hand press
Louisa Roberts age 17, born Llangollen, general servant
Robert Roberts age 10, born Llangollen
Jane A Roberts age 6, born Llangollen
Mary Roberts age 5, born Llangollen




Elizabeth Roberts (1860 - 1940) Roberts Family Tree


In Brief:


1861 Census
Square, Garth Road, Trevor Issa, Llangollen
[We have not managed exactly to pinpoint this address, but it is likely to be at the upper end of Garth Road]

Probable position of Square, Garth at nls.uk
Link to Old-Maps.co.uk
General area of Square, Garth.
Robert Roberts age 30, Coal Miner, born Llangollen
Ann Roberts age 27, born Llangollen
John Roberts age 3, born Llangollen
Elizabeth Roberts age 1 month, born Llangollen


1871 Census
Brynygroes, Garth Ucha, Trevor Issa, Llangollen

Probable position of Brynygroes, Garth at nls.uk
Link to Brynygroes, Garth at Old-Maps.co.uk
Position of Brynygroes, Garth.
Robert Roberts age 44, Coal Miner, born Llangollen
Ann Roberts age 38, born Llangollen
John Roberts age 13, born Llangollen
Elizabeth Roberts age 11, born Llangollen
Ellen Roberts age 9, born Llangollen
Louisa Roberts age 7, born Llangollen
Robert Roberts age 4 months, born Llangollen


1881 Census

We have not confirmed Elizabeth on the 1881 census yet, but she was married later that year.

Marriage (from certificate) Roberts Family Tree

Elizabeth Roberts, age 21, spinster, married William Edwards (age 29), widower, Engineer, at the Register Office, Corwen, 20 October 1881
Both gave their addresses as Garth Trevor.
William's father was George Edwards, labourer.
Elizabeth's father was Robert Roberts, collier (deceased) Witnesses were William Evans and Jane Evans


To America

Elizabeth, William and their young family, Annie Ellen aged 4, Mary Louisa aged 2 and Robert Trevor aged 1, left Liverpool aboard the SS Germanic, arriving in New York on 16th September 1887
They travelled to Pennsylvania, presumably joining the numerous other Welsh immigrants who had moved there to work in the emerging mining and iron working industries.
Their son John William was born in Pennsylvania on 28th August 1889.
They returned to Britain before 1891 and lived for a short while in Lancashire before returning to Wales.


1891 Census
33 Carr Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley, Lancashire

Carr Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley at nls.uk
Link to Carr Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley at Old-Maps.co.uk
Position of 33 Carr Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley.
William Edwards age 39, blacksmith's labourer, born Llangollen
Elizabeth Edwards age 31, born Llangollen
Annie Ellen Edwards, age 7, born Llangollen
Mary Louisa Edwards, age 5, born Llangollen
Robert Trevor Edwards, age 4, born Llangollen
John William Edwards, age 1, born Pennsylvania, America
Robert Roberts (Elizabeth's brother), age 19, labourer - loom maker's shop, born Llangollen.


1901 Census
23 Llewelyn Road, Brymbo

23 Llewelyn Road, Vron, Brymbo at nls.uk
Llewelyn Road, Vron, Brymbo at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing 23 Llewelyn Road, Vron, Brymbo
Elizabeth Edwards (widow) age 41, born Llangollen
Robert T Edwards, age 14, attendant shot lighter (coal mine) born Llangollen
John W Edwards, age 11, born America
Sarah E Edwards, age 9, born Denbigh Wrexham
Tom M Edwards, age 7, born Denbigh Wrexham
Juan Edwards, age 5, born Denbigh, Wrexham
Lavinia Edwards, age 3, born Denbigh, Wrexham
William E Edwards, age 1, Denbigh, Wrexham


Elizabeth's second marriage (from certificate) Roberts Family Tree

4th November 1901
Hill Street, Brymbo at nls.uk
Hill Street, Brymbo at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing Hill Street, Brymbo
23 Llewelyn Road, Vron, Brymbo at nls.uk
Llewelyn Road, Vron, Brymbo at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing 23 Llewelyn Road, Vron, Brymbo
Elizabeth married Robert Evans, widower (age 36) collier, of 41 Hill Street, Brymbo, at the Register Office, Wrexham,
Elizabeth's age was given as 41 years.
She lived at 23 Llewelyn Road, Vron, Brymbo.
Elizabeth's father, Robert Roberts (Deceased), collier
Robert's father, John, was a stone quarryman
Witnesses James Griffiths, (his mark), Mary Ann Griffiths

1911 Census
2 Blast Road, Brymbo
Elizabeth now married to Robert Evans, widower

Blast Road, Brymbo at nls.uk
Blast Road, Brymbo at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing Blast Road, Brymbo
Robert Evans age 45, labourer, steelworks, born Denbigh
Elizabeth Evans age 52, born Llangollen
(Marriage has lasted 10 years with one child, still living)
David Evans, age 18, cutter, coal mine, born Brymbo
Ioon (Juan, Joan?) Edwards, (Roberts' stepson) age 16, labourer, coal mine, born Brymbo
Arthur Evans, son age 14, scholar, born Brymbo
Lavinia Edwards, (Roberts' stepdaughter) age 13, born Brymbo
William Eric Edwards, (Roberts' stepson) age 11, born Brymbo
Margaret Alice Evans, age 9, born Brymbo

Widowed

Tudor Street, Coedpoeth at nls.uk
Tudor Street, Coedpoeth at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing Tudor Street, Coedpoeth
Robert was buried on 18th December 1916, aged 51, at Coedpoeth Cemetery

At this time, Elizabeth was living at 'Bryn Hyfryd', 11 Tudor Street, Coedpoeth.
[This information taken from the service record of her son John William Edwards who had emigrated to Canada in 1910 and was serving with the Royal Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force. The record shows a change of address, the original having been 'Rock Cottage', Nant, Coedpoeth.]

1939 Register
"2, Bryn Hyfryd", (31) Nant Road, Coedpoeth

Nant Road, Coedpoeth at nls.uk
Nant Road, Coedpoeth at Old-Maps.co.uk
Google map showing Nant Road, Coedpoeth
Evans Arthur born 16th July 1897, married, Heavy Haulage Hand Below (Heavy Work)
Evans Charlotte born 18th June 1902, married, unpaid Domestic Duties
Evans Kenneth born 1st April 1933, at school
1 record still officially closed
Marjory May Pritchard Grimshaw born 26th May 1931, at school (Margin note 16.7.55 CR283 MAN)
Evans Elizabeth born 6th February 1860, widow, unpaid Domestic Duties

Elizabeth's Death

Elizabeth was buried on 5th October 1940, aged 80, in the same plot as Robert, at Coedpoeth Cemetery